Monday, March 17, 2008

Were You CONVINCED?

During the past fights of Manny Pacquiao,
the text messages would fly fast and furious,
before, during, and after the fight,


from those watching PayPerView,
those listening to ringside AM radio coverage,
those monitoring the fight online,
and those who chose to slog through endless TV commercials.

The tone of the messages would vary wildly;
from cautious optimism,
swing to severe pessimism,
and ultimately, to wild elation.



It's very strange,
but yesterday, I only received ONE text message;
one single message the WHOLE day,


and my friend who sent it after the decision,
more than anything,
seemed relieved to get a reprieve.


I didn't feel that palpable Pinoy pride
that swelled in all of us after the Morales and Barrera wars.

It seemed to me that no one really
wanted to talk about the win over Marquez...



Now,
there's no argument that we deeply love Pacman and his fighting heart,
despite his Lito Atienza-led entourage

(sino magsusundo sa iyo sa airport, manny?)
and his well-documented Embassy shenanigans
(watch out for the Gucci Gang, pacman!);


however,
Filipinos are the most intelligent boxing fans
in the world
,


and yesterday,
most of us realized, accepted,
and understood deep down,

that despite his being knocked down in the 3rd,


MARQUEZ WUZ ROBBED!

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marquez wuz robbed seem like a little too harsh for me. I saw the whole fight and I would admit it was far from convincing, but to say he was robbed? Come on!
There are a lot of debatable rounds in that fight and depending on the judge, he could give the edge to different fighters, such is the subjective nature of the sport. Some judges prefer the aggressive fighter, some the more accurate, others look for telling punches, so unless its a one-sided domination, a lot of times people would not agree on who won or not.
Personally I scored it for Marquez by a point, but as I said it was too close to call. But robbed? Maybe you felt that when you saw Atienza, Noli and Chavit beside Manny!

March 17, 2008 at 5:41 PM  
Blogger spanx said...

i dunno bro...

even pacman didn't seem too convinced ",)

March 17, 2008 at 5:53 PM  
Anonymous Philippine Updates said...

I scored it a Marquez by a hairline. But still, it was the judges call. Sans a KO, it was their call. Giving allowances to errors and professional judgment, i will not call it a robbery. Unless Bob Arum paid the judges, I think it was a fair call.

It's the likes of Recah Trinidad that I cannot stand. Sore losers. May have placed a high bet in marquez and lost.

March 17, 2008 at 8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree that robbed is a little too harsh. while the win wasnt convincing, a win is a win is a win.

1) judges are there for a reason albeit their dirty image. they have trained eyes and are well-versed on the "technicalities" of scoring. certain parameters are used as guidlines in boxing and are not scored on a whim. these rules are there to avoid subjectivity.

did you know for instance that round 3 should have been scored 10-7 instead of 10-8 in favor of pacquiao when marquez held on to the ropes before the bell sounded? that is a rule that certainly very few of us dont know. the judges didnt score it this way because the ref was remiss of his duty in calling it a knockdown, which was what it was eventhough he never fell.

also, watching it live is different from watching it on tv. you hear the "thump" of the punches beating the body, sweat and blood splashing all over, bodies flailing, etc.

2)i think you misinterpreted pacmans body language and facial expression when he heard the decision. it was more of a relief, rather than disbelief, since it was really too close to call. it could have been called either way.

going to the scorecards and leaving his fate to the judges is something pacquiao is not used to.

unfortunately for pacman and us, his fans, we have set the bar so high that no less than a knockout is "convincing"!

this is, by far, the most objective analysis by any boxing expert, filipino or not. please read on http://philboxing.com/news/story-15667.html

p.s. hindi ko nilalahat pero biases and assesments of the fight are further clouded by "inggit"! just my two cents

sorry for the long post. begging for your kind indulgence. thanks

March 18, 2008 at 3:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A television viewer cannot measure the general effect of a punch like a ringsider can. Why not? Because the sound of punches is lost by television. Though one can see the blow land and the reaction it causes, and hear something, a television viewer’s overall perception is compromised.

March 18, 2008 at 4:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I have no problems with anyone who had Marquez. But for those calling it a robbery or controversial, in the words of Arum: SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

No, but seriously, it was a close fight that could've gone either way. Close does not necessarily mean controversial or corrupt. It means just that, it was close. In my highly unofficial score book, I have both men winning a fight in this magnificent rivalry. I think by at least the end of the year, a third fight should be consummated."

- steve kim of maxboxing.com

p.s. the other post above was taken from an article in philboxing.com i was not able to note the authors name and his company. sorry!

March 18, 2008 at 4:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly! I can't stand the so-called boxing experts like Recah Trinidad or Ronnie Nathanielz who before the match were singing praises for Pacquiao and now are asking for an investigation regarding the match! Incredible! Diyan talaga magaling Pinoy, crab mentality at its finest.

Bottomline is Marquez or Pacquiao could have won, a draw would have been more fitting, but I think losers of these kinds of fight and their fans and other 'experts' should learn to accept the decision of the judges. This is not the Comelec na may dagdag bawas.

March 18, 2008 at 10:10 AM  
Blogger spanx said...

a little bit of boxing history,
in case some of you missed the reference:

"We wuz robbed!"
was first shouted by Joe Jacobs, manager of Max Schmelling, when at the end of a fight Max seemed to have handily won, the decision instead went to Jack Sharkey.

from:
The Origins of Boxing Terms and Traditions
By B.R. Bearden


Thanks for all the pithy comments, boxing fans! And as the late, great Joe Cantada used to say:
"Keep on Punching!!!"

March 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM  
Blogger **** KAMULO **** said...

funny, i thought pacquiao won convincingly. but that's me, and i'm no boxing fan. for a casual observer like me, to say that it could have gone either way is valid. but to say marquez was robbed? that's pushing it a bit far.

March 18, 2008 at 11:38 PM  
Anonymous JuaNa said...

It was a tough game; both players were good. I guess we were all expecting the power of Pacman to outshine that of Marquez; we were waiting for the moves Pacman is famous for.
However, that match proved to be a difficult one and did not highlight that Pacman power we know of. I guess Pacman himself was disappointed with that. Yet he was declared the new Champ. :)
Whatever our scorecards says... It's not our call. Let's leave that problem to the judges; they are better at this than us, mere expectators.:)

Go Pacman!

March 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM  

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